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    You are 100% correct. You've said concisely what took me an hour to write in my comment.
    – AMtwo
    Commented Jul 12, 2024 at 17:26
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    If you're speaking of me personally, you're wrong. I actually have no decision making role in this. My role is to advise, but this decision is made by others. So what I want is frankly irrelevant. (For the record, I'm a huge supporter of the internet archive, and I have friends there.) If by "you" you mean the company, I still disagree. Nobody is turning off the data dumps. They will still exist, and you will still have access to them.
    – Philippe StaffMod
    Commented Jul 12, 2024 at 17:56
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    @Philippe, I can confirm that this statement (from your post last year) is patently false: "Our intention was never to stop posting the data dump permanently" ...I was in the room, and you were not when PC told me the intent was to stop the dump--so perhaps whoever you are getting your information from is the disingenuous one.
    – AMtwo
    Commented Jul 12, 2024 at 18:02
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    @Philippe If by "you" in "you will still have access", you mean the same people that have access to them right now, and not just the subset of people who can access them and also have accounts on SE, that's not entirely accurate. People can't have an SE account if without agreeing to the TOS. I don't have to agree to any terms to download from archive.org.
    – ColleenV
    Commented Jul 12, 2024 at 18:03
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    @Philippe "my role is to advise" -skip a bit- "I'm a huge supporter of the internet archive"... well so looks like your advise doesn't have much, or any, impact on those who do make the decisions. No matter how you paint it, the decision they made is against "open for everyone" principle, big time.
    – user152859
    Commented Jul 13, 2024 at 7:46
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    I'd argue - from the outside, and from the perspective of a lot of former staff who 'get' how the community feels, I see Punyon here, as well as comments from Nick that the actions so far are not that different from the time the company tried to cut off access to the data dump, and considering its been a year since the last time, and there's no actual sign of a release, only a delay, its not that different from our perspective.
    – Journeyman Geek
    Commented Jul 17, 2024 at 1:18
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    @Philippe "Nobody is turning off the data dumps. They will still exist, and you will still have access to them." On every 3rd Friday after a full moon from 3:04AM till 3:07AM, by filling out a 291 page form in triplicate, by hand (allow 7-31 months for processing after submission to a PO box in outer Mongolia)
    – CharonX
    Commented Aug 9, 2024 at 12:22
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    @CharonX Did you have to fight a leopard for them?
    – Michael come lately
    Commented Aug 16, 2024 at 16:01