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    This fracas began in September 27... it hasn't blown over. It's got worse, and the management are fools for not intervening with the constructive rebuilding of trust (for want of a better term).
    – Mari-Lou A Слава Україні
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 9:55
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    I've been following it ever since Monicas termination. Management improperly timing announcements and reacting without regard to the community is definitely a pattern that I've noticed. The unwritten alternative was that they were preparing a correction that would actually satisfy the community as a whole, but considering what we've seen so far, I would say they're just going to wait out the siege.
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 10:26
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    They are working on something according to Shog9: meta.stackexchange.com/a/335607/627227
    – dfhwze
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 10:43
  • I hadn't seen that @dfhwze, it looks like I could be (and sincerely hope that I am) wrong
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 10:54
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    @dfhwze They are working on something, let's see and hope what is coming soon. However, given SE history of trying to fix a wrong by commiting two other greater wrongs, I have fear that whatever they'll do, it will just make things worse. I really wish that they get right this time, but I wouldn't bet at that odds.
    – Victor Stafusa
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 17:54
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    @VictorStafusa, They've been "working on something" since at least October 3. Every "something" that has come out since then has only made the problem worse. I'm not going to hold my breath.
    – Mark
    Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 20:02
  • "Unity is what we should be calling it." I don't really understand that part. Calling diversity unity, what exactly would it help? I think you may be up to something, but I fear I do not really understand it, unless it's formulated differently.
    – NoDataDumpNoContribution
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 10:54
  • @Trilarion I’m trying to highlight that we stop at dividing when when we call something diverse, because as a word, diversity still highlights the differences between us.
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:06
  • @KyleFairns Sorry, I still don't understand it. Do you mean that we are all different is good, is bad, is intended? Should we be diverse but not divided and if so how?
    – NoDataDumpNoContribution
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:21
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    @Trilarion I mean, I may be reading too deep into their definitions is all. According to the definition by the Queensborough community college (the first search result for me when searching for “diversity”), we’re still dividing people by characteristics, rather than focusing in on individuals. Not every person within a group will have the same opinions or experiences, and I feel like while it’s aim is pure, the focus is still on those characteristics, when uniting individuals who happen to have those characteristics is really what we want.
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:37
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    Like, someone may speak up for themselves and how they feel, and others assume that they are the spokesperson for all people who share that characteristic rather than just an individual with an opinion.
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:38
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    You mean something like we are all unique and different from each other? I understand that, and would readily subscribe to it. But how can it unite us (knowing that we are all different)? (Sorry I don't have upvotes anymore for today.)
    – NoDataDumpNoContribution
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:44
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    We should rally behind the idea that we are all human, and take into account the fact that we are all different in order to start from a blank slate (imo). An interaction with someone (especially on a Q&A site) is a learning experience, we find out more about each other the longer we talk, and make judgements and modifications to our behaviour based on what has been said, or the actions of the individual we're talking to, rather than on characteristics that we hold. We know that problems do exist that consistently make others feel worthless, and I feel we should be mindful of that.
    – kfairns
    Commented Oct 18, 2019 at 11:54
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    @Mari-LouA and the management are fools for not intervening with the constructive rebuilding of trust Agreed. Very strange that both sides of the argument feel untrustful right now and yet SE still chooses to do nothing.
    – Qix - MONICA WAS MISTREATED
    Commented Oct 24, 2019 at 0:33
  • I suspect there are multiple vocal minorities here right now...
    – Benjol
    Commented Nov 28, 2019 at 13:10